Growing up military

topic posted Wed, January 7, 2004 - 6:34 PM by  Gypsi Star
please share some of your experiences growing up in the military.

I was a navy brat.. We moved so many times I lost track. Bout the only lesson that was ingrained in me was how to say good-bye, and walk away. I learned to leave many things and look forward to a new adventure. I have never been considered "stable" in the respect of being able to stay in one place for very long...hence the name Gypsie.
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Gypsi Star
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  • Growing up military

    Wed, January 7, 2004 - 8:00 PM
    Hi there, GypsiStar;
    I was Marine Corps Brat from birth to 1971, when I bolted and ran for the Canadian border. Finally got legal residence up here and haven't regretted it. All the moving around left me an seventeen year old with a great desire to settle down.

    I lived on Camp Pendleton in the early years of the VietNam war (64-68)... strange times! I saw mutineers in a hijacked helicopter brought down with a sidewinder missle. Rattlesnakes bred for spiderhole cleaning eight feet long. Camped out in defoliated areas...

    Had incredible privilages as an Officers dependant, but frankly it was a bit overstimulating.
    • Re: Growing up military

      Thu, January 8, 2004 - 10:40 PM
      I know what you mean... my dad wasn't an officer, but we did live on the base and at one point lived in Los Alamitos Ca. He was stationed at Whittier. We lived near Rossmore housing which is an incredibly wealth area. So we didn't see alot of war zones except for what went on at school.. it sometimes got real serious.

      Your experiences are incredible.. But what I have learned is that what doesn't kill you will make you stronger. And living the life of being a navy brat and moving 19 times in 14 years has taught me a great deal. I have had some real strong negative experiences as well but feel almost blessed from it becuase I have a stronger will then the remainder of my siblings.

      I guess its a matter of perspective. I wouldn't volunteer to go back and do it all over again tho...:) I would definitely choose a different way of life.. I have always wanted to settle down....just was never quite able to do so.

      I am glad you are living a good life since moving to Canada. I have a lot of good friends there.
      • Re: Growing up military

        Fri, January 9, 2004 - 11:22 AM
        My biggest milbrat 'gee-whizzer' is that Oliver North was Scoutmaster of my BoyScout troop on Pendleton about 1965. They'd shipped him outta' the DaNang BOQ when he was suicidal that his wife told him "if he loved the Marine Corps so much, you can just stay there in 'Nam" (or something to that effect).
        He was tackled there naked, with a locked and loaded .45.
        So for a cooling down, they sent him back to Pendleton and he chilled tending the Scouts.
        HE had us marching close-order drill, and lectured us on being "the vanguard against Communism in this hemisphere". Even us thirteen years olds knew this was berserker talk.
        • Re: Growing up military

          Fri, January 9, 2004 - 5:28 PM
          Thats the military for ya. If ya can't hack it in the "real" world.....teach the kids. LOL Its kinda cool that you had Olie. for a scout master...its not cool under the circumstances that he taught.

          Sometimes when a military person from the old school (not this new fangled crap) is in a High stress positon their family is the only string to sanity they have to hold onto... I learned this one time when my dad was really drunk..

          If that string is broken or even threatened, the person can crack with no apparant reason as most higher ups lead a double life. ie: military and civilian family. Most military personnel I have spoke with over the years tried very hard (sometimes too much) to protect their families from what they had to go thru.

          The divorce rate in the military is far greater then in almost any other occupation. The lack of understanding plays a role, but mostly its the time away from home. Its hard for a wife and kids to look at the man they perceive only as husband, daddy, as someone who may or may not be capable of killing another human being, or who may be called upon to do things that normal ppl wouldn't even dream of. Its also difficult to know that a wife is married to the United States Military, not just the man she fell in love with..

          Sorry...got carried away.. didn't realize it till now..that in my own way I was venting.. appologies..
          • Re: Growing up military

            Sat, January 10, 2004 - 6:39 AM
            No apologies needed, GS! Venting, Goooood.

            Family is surely the 'hot topic' in my life.

            My Dad was POW of the Japanese for three+years, of the Red Chinese for one (with the 'brainwashing'treatment').

            Much to my shame, he's said that his kids have caused him more pain and anguish than he ever had as a POW.

            My Dad was debriefed by a MajorGeneral from HQ.Marine Corp last year on nine hours of tape. I got a copy, and in the final bits of the tape, he created some sorta' "composite character" of me and my next eldest brother, and declared that both of us were "dead from drugs". Somewhat true in my bro's case, but rather premature in mine.

            Were you milbrat in the '60's?
            • Re: Growing up military

              Sat, January 10, 2004 - 1:16 PM
              I was born in 61 and my real dad was awol from the marines. We moved every thirty days.. Don't remember much of that. My mom left him when I was 3 cuz he tried to slit her wrist and push her out a 2 story window... I was told he was a heroin addict and an alcholic. But, like I said, don't remember much. My mom remarried to a Navy man (who adopted me and my natural brother) when I was young as well. We moved several times. So I grew up in the 60's but was more consciously influenced in the 70's. But we lived in LA and San Diego most of that time. Most of my life was spent growing up in CA. But we bounced around to places like Texas, Colorado, Wyoming. and a few others I can't seem to remember.

              How bout you..??

              Thats sad about what your dad said. My dad thought I was a "toy" for his drinking buddies. I was always told to dance with them or be nice to them. He spent alot of time in the Phillipines where they would give the sailors their very young daughters so he became accostomed to that. He didn't realize much of the time what he was doing. (or maybe he did.) We don't talk that much anymore. I married when I was 18 and left. Would have left much earlier, but never found a place where I was comfortable enuf to loose my family. They moved around so much and so fast that I was almost scared to go to school, cuz I wasnt' sure I'd have a family to come home to.>>LOL (it really wasn't quite that bad, but there were many times we had a weeks notice or less)
              • Re: Growing up military

                Mon, February 23, 2004 - 11:13 AM
                Jeezus! That's a hell of a tale, hell of a childhood.

                Do you still live in Southern California?
                • Re: Growing up military

                  Mon, February 23, 2004 - 3:46 PM
                  Naw. My travels have brought me to be married to an ex sailor, and living in a remote region of Montana.

                  We got out of the rat race, after both of us have worked 2 jobs when we lived in Ca. and now live in a region where life is slower, we live by a real nice lake so we can go boating, fishing, etc.. There are numerous trees around us as well. Its beautiful here..
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                    Re: Growing up military

                    Thu, February 26, 2004 - 1:27 PM
                    That's what I headed for, too: the 'boondocks'. The pic above my name is the island I live on. Twenty+ inch trout (when the rascals are biting), cool medicinal mushrooms in the forest...
                    • Re: Growing up military

                      Thu, February 26, 2004 - 2:27 PM
                      Yea..we live in the middle of a national forest..within walking distance to the lake. Its awesome. I went fishing this winter and pulled a 9 1/2 lb bull trout out of the lake.. but had to put it back.. They aren't legal for us to keep yet..the year they are making changes to that. My fishing buddy caught a 14 lb bull trout just before I did. Boy they sure fight like the dickens..

                      I sure miss fishing in Ca.. I love shark, sturgeon and catfish. We lived just off the Delta.. The San Joaquin river. We could take our boat and go from the river where we were.. up river into Sacramento.. 80 miles away.. or down river to the ocean.. It was great.. We had so many waterways, it looked like a spaghetti map of a city freeway. LOL

                      There were many secluded spots and numerous islands..

                      You Island is beautiful.. Where is it? How do you adjust to living on an island..? I have never lived on one...so have always been land locked.. LOL

                      What are the benefits to living on the island vs on a larger body of land like the one I live on.. (a whole continent :) )
                      • Re: Growing up military

                        Sun, October 24, 2004 - 3:15 PM
                        Prolonged computer probs had me off-line waaazy long time.

                        Excuse very tardy reply, pls.

                        Lucky you!, to have been fishing the Delta down Sacramento way.... I lived there a few years (Orangevale/Folsom area), but never got on the water.

                        "You Island is beautiful.. Where is it?":
                        It's between Vancouver and Vancouver Island... it's Canada's equivalent of the Channel Islands (Santa Catalina, etc.) of Southern California. Though some islands of this group are far more populated than the Catalinas.

                        Heres' a link to a waaay deep article (from Harpers Magazine, Jan.2k1) about our local island culture:

                        www.findarticles.com/p/artic...70397119
                        • Re: Growing up military

                          Sun, October 24, 2004 - 11:53 PM
                          Soo.. what did you catch on your excursion.. besides a tan.. LOL..


                          I love the Sacramento River.. We used to go boating there quite a bit.. We also used to take the boat out on the Delta.. The Sacramento river, San Joaquin Delta and Stanislaus River..

                          We didn't fish much but we had a passal of fun.. had some really great times there.

                          Caught some catfish and sturgeon.. That was great.. difficult to catch tho..

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